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I've been trying to write this one for months, but I didn't actually have anything new or useful to say, and then the other day, I read a book review, and it's way of defining a seemingly unrelated topic gave me the key I needed to put it all together.

So, what is the Trouble With Authenticity?

Read on to find out!

Date: 2023-06-19 11:54 pm (UTC)
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I enjoyed your post very much. Parts of your story remind me of my path. I found JMG when I decided I wanted a deity (or deities) and I happened across an article of his that led me to the Druid Handbook. It took me a while to find my pantheon, but you are right... when it is right, you can feel it. And I have no interest in being a Reconstructionist. ;-)

Your post is a logical well-written explanation of things that I have felt but would struggle to express with words.

Date: 2023-06-20 10:02 am (UTC)
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Ha! Back at you! Your posts are always thoughtful and interesting, but usually about topics I have little background in (so I don't have anything to contribute, either!). :-)

Date: 2023-06-20 12:33 am (UTC)
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So you had your major TSW moment! Literally jolted out of materialism, eh?

What you wrote makes a ton of sense on why LARPing is so rampant amount hardline recons, and I guess with the general state of religion today. So many people have no real belief in anything non-material, but there's certain social advantages that come from play-acting something resembling a religion.

While I was never that hardcore of a materialist back before I had any solid metaphysical beliefs, I never took spirituality that seriously until I had a few very weird experiences of my own.

TSW indeed.

Date: 2023-06-20 10:15 am (UTC)
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Thanks for another interesting blog! JMG wrote that magic is neither science nor religion, but a third thing. From the introduction to Way of the Golden Section:

You turn to science to learn about matter and energy; you turn to religion to learn about faith and morals; you turn to occultism to learn about consciousness and the unseen worlds that lie between the realm of Deity and the realm of matter.

In a comment on Ecosophia, JMG wrote:

Religion is the art and science of managing human relationships with disembodied intelligent beings, such as gods and spirits.

So when you write "being at least open to the thought that the Gods were really real", that sounds like religion, but when you mention rituals like LBRP, that sounds like the occult.

My occult "TSW" experience was much less intense than yours. I've always liked rolling dice or flipping coins. Divination is the art form of what I was dabbling in before. So for me it wasn't really an aha! moment, but like turning a corner and seeing a wide new view.

For my list of abbreviations, I assume LARP means Live Action Role Playing. "A gathering of many people who re-enact a real or fictitious event, often complete with clothing" What do you think of that description?

Edited Date: 2023-06-20 10:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2023-06-21 09:30 am (UTC)
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Indeed, the categories of religion and occult seem to overlap even by JMG's definitions.

Beautiful definiton of LARP, I'll keep it like you wrote it.

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