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C5) "Thanks for this, I likely ought to have put it together. I suspected she did, but she's even-handed enough in most of her writing to acknowledge folks who don't and what their reasons are without obviously putting them down or calling them wrong." - I *have* thought she's more reasonable than Raven Kaldera - but ... faint praise even if true?

"That prayer makes me slightly uncomfortable from a JMG-inspired "get consent for folks you pray for" standpoint." - Well, YES, but if you worship Loki, how's the Lokasenna not gonna be involved?

Note also that Kaldera/Krasskova's ideas about deities in general *right now* don't involve a whole lot of concern for human consent about them:

"At the same time: where I work, what I do, where I live, whether or not I can have any particular partner, sometimes what I eat and drink and wear are all dictated to me. How much sleep I get, and what friends I may have are impacted by Odin’s ownership of me." - Galina Krasskova, http://kenazfilan.blogspot.com/2010/08/filan-and-krasskova-on-ordeals-and-god.html .

(Can I say about someone *absurdly* more experienced than I: she's doing *Odin* worship quite wrongly?)

"She's an unusual case in the myths, and the arguments for why to worship her make a certain amount of sense to me, and the arguments for why not worshipping her may be due to a Christian-derived bias are also plausible, but I haven't dug into it enough to have a sense, so for now, I don't actively worship Her, but I also try to be respectful." - Although it's been said her dead subjects will fight the Aesir's, I have similar inclinations - for one, I don't have a source on hand, but I've read arguments I considered convincing that the Germanic afterlife was distorted into Valhalla-centrism and that goind to Helheim originally wasn't supposed to be considered unfortunate; and you might want to consider https://lyricstranslate.com/en/therion-helheim-lyrics.html (if you don't know it already - but in any case you have heard about Thomas Karlsson already, right?).

C7.1) "but also like applying it universally only makes sense if you believe in Progress." - Possibly, but I'm sure I still have Progressive thought in my mind, and it makes me think we aren't a whole lot like the people that wrote this stuff, therefore JBP's putting a *lot* of himself and his much more recent influences into it (with admittedly pretty interesting results?).

C7.6) "he still seems pretty committed to it." - Might there be things he thinks he can't say? But, I dunno, he actually seems fairly transparent to me? (And has been argued to have become a trans-parent to many people?)