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Oh, that makes perfect sense. (I did comment before the post proper was there.)

(In which Ódhinn literally fracks shale [1] in the hope of obtaining a precious liquid!)

First, I'd like the comments about this on Toward Ecosophy to be findable from here, so: https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/230217.html?thread=40611145#cmt40611145 .

A tangent from Ódhinn's eyes: in some Ecosophia comment, JMG linked him to Kether/Celi, on the basis of his being the one-eyed Aesir lord. I thought all this time "he has 2 eyes working perfectly, just not in the same plane" - note that heterochromia has been considered a sign of spirit sight. (Not to say having 1 eye/plane couldn't cost him anything, of course.) Moreover, if one uses a 9-planet scheme, to consider Ódhinn Uranian's a no-brainer to me, and Chokmah/Perydd would be associated to Uranus and the number 2 [2]. (See also Stephen Flowers' remarks on Odian bipolarity, which I don't consider even a slight stretch of the myths.) Lastly, I've asked myself: do I want to associate Kether/Celi to a person? [3] (If one did, it'd be a Neptunian deity in a 9-planet scheme.)

Well, how relevant do you consider not 1 but 2 "galdr"-cognates being involved in this, and maybe all the fairy tales about girls doing domestic work for nasty women have something to offer regarding it?

Did Ódhinn lose something to/with Gunnlodh? Well, did Freyja lose something to/with the 4 short ugly men? (Yes, I know the jötunn was named "Invitation", not "Men Run Away Screaming", so not *quite* the same situation.) *And what is it with Germanic myth and sex with underground denizens?*

"He does tell us that it was such a close call that Woden pissed out some of the Mead, and this is where bad poetry comes from." - so, is it explicitly said that good poetry requires being in good terms with the Aesir, while bad poetry happens spontaneously? Nicely straightforward!

About how much Gunnlodh is an underworld figure: given the former importance of burial mounds, am I seeing too much in think Ódhinn spent 3 days buried, i.e. dead, in this one? (Buried between a hot woman's thighs? Lots of writing about that too!)

To think that Ódhinn first lowers his status directly and then breaks an oath does make sense, but consider also - I failed to obtain a full quote now, but in addition to "Their accommodation was spartan in the extreme, and much time would be spent incubating poems and seeking inspiration in total darkness." ( https://druidry.org/druid-way/what-druidry/what-is-a-bard ), I remember a statement that even post-Christianity a bard being trained in this way would have *a stone placed on his chest*.

[1]: note that shale proper is a type of rock, not oil.
[2]: if higher planets have lower numbers - for the reverse, see https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/10976.html?thread=239072#cmt239072 .
[3]: I should note that The Litany of the Tree of Life has the Unmanifest above Celi, and *that* one is never linked to a person, but I shouldn't say I grasp the distinction between them.
[4]: If it clarifies anything - I thought much of this in silence, dark, and cold - but there was a blanket, not a stone!