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Jeff Russell ([personal profile] jprussell) wrote2023-02-05 10:10 pm

[Main Blog Post] Thoughts on the "Way of the Rose"

So far, I keep on with getting a blog post out for each week, if only barely. This week, my thoughts on the book The Way of the Rose: The Radical Path of the Divine Feminine Hidden in the Rosary by Clark Strand and Perdita Finn. I found it helpful in thinking about my work on a "Heathen Rosary", and I think anyone who thinks the Rosary might be helpful or at least interesting, but is not all that Catholic, might find this book worth checking out.
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[personal profile] open_space 2023-02-24 05:01 am (UTC)(link)

Hey there Jeff, wondering how your Heather Rosary is going. Any ideas you would like to share?

Cheers!

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[personal profile] prayergardens 2023-02-25 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi,

I wanted to thank you for your write up of the book. I got it and read it. I'm digesting it - there were pluses and minuses for me. BUT the reading did prompt me to get moving. I read JMG's book on prayer beads a while back and had been wanting to experiment with rosary bead making since it is a place of direct overlap between prayer and gardening for me. I currently have roses simmering away on the stove in my first attempt. I would be most interested if you find any specific plants that are helpful to your rosary project and would offer to make you some beads (or at least attempt to) since I'd like to try making beads out of other plants with religious significance once I get the rose method figured out.
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[personal profile] prayergardens 2023-02-25 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The petals only. Search DIY rosary beads and there are a ton of easy tutorials. However, most of them use a blender and after some Magic Mondays I was concerned about cutting with knife blades if that cut the energy so I deep-googled to find an old 'simmer for many days recipe' that's literally been on my backburner all this week. The traditional is medieval Catholic originally.

I haven't been down the tree path much but the Mary Gardens database has quite a few (Olive, Pine, etc) but interesting nothing about Yew/Taxus. I hope to extend the database to a comparative religions setup when I got it done so I could note interesting things like this, but I'm not there yet.

I haven't found much more about plant based beads yet beyond the rosary. I was going to start experimenting with a mashup of what I can grow and what is the ENM to see where it goes. I can't recall if JMG's book covers it and my copy is in storage (to be dug up soon). I wonder if beads could be made of tree leaves/evergreen needles. IDK! Historically, the branches were turned on lathes for beads. However, there is a modern Catholic tradition where funeral flowers or wedding flowers are mixed with a polymer or resin to make beads if the material is not enough or not suitable for the rose method. I haven't done more than bookmark some links so far.

One interesting historical note is that apparently when rosaries were the rage in England, there was a whole street outside of St.Pauls Cathedral, Paternoster Row, where there were bead making guilds that specialized in various material so the bone guild was different than the rose guild and such. Different religion for you but I think it would be very interesting to learn more about the technologies in use there.
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[personal profile] prayergardens 2023-03-06 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Olive wood is an excellent choice! I have considered getting a rosary made of wood b/c my only one is made of roses and too fragile for daily use.

When I was doing my deep dive, I found a few other links. This woman started a website https://paternoster-row.medievalscotland.org/ and I believe she published in an SCA journal. I tried tracking it down but hit a dead end but it makes sense that SCA would figure this out. I didn't know they published research but this will be a road I go down eventually. There's a deadlink on her about page. I believe I still have borrowing privileges at the university where I did graduate work and was going to look into this but, realistically, it will take me a while to get to it. If you go down the path - let me know!

My rose beads were a nice first try but a miss. Too lumpy. I was hoping the long boil method would break things down more since blenders are not historical. Turns out I need a more abrasive mortar and pestle as a first step pre-boil, since my little one was too smooth and couldn't break down dry petals. My best modern guess is one of those mexican guacamole mortars and I'll work on getting one of those next.