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Date: 2023-03-05 03:12 am (UTC)"I don't have any problem with the idea of his demanding respect, but I think he sounds like a pretty non-authoritarian (not to be mistaken for "nice") boss in the myths. (Of course, the culture that worshipped him had slavery, but that's a problem nearly any religion arguably "has" by our standards.)" ?
C5.2) "Thank you, I did, but embarrassingly enough, I only learned about this about a year ago when I finally got around to reading The Republic in its entirety. I was *shocked* to discover that the most famous work of Western philosophy has a super weird, super detailed discussion of reincarnation for the finale. I was then amused that when I went looking for discussion of it, *every* academic article was like "what weird symbolic point was Plato trying to make here?" and absolutely no one took seriously that maybe he (and/or Socrates) was trying to present what he believed to be accurate information about how the world works that might help you live a better life." - Unfortunately, I didn't learn about it long ago either; first heard ancient Europeans believed in reincarnation and thought that was New-Ager projection, then heard about it without that specific source, then that extremely clear source. While most of his work doesn't have a lot to do with the subject, a historian that outright said classical Europeans seem to have believed in reincarnation is Philip Matyszak (didn't read his books; heard him on Radio War Nerd, where he was great).
"Indeed! Maybe dead women are too busy being called up by necromancers to prophesize about the future to get a dedicated place to hang out." - Kek!
"Ah, sorry not to have been able to help you out there." - No problem; enough occultists drew my attention for a long time, and I also need to go back to some non-occult reading!
"The very best you can hope for seems to be "you had your head on straight and did everything right, but you followed a spiritual path that doesn't suit me so well" (like, e.g. Dion Fortune and seemingly JMG)." - I'd have understood you saying this about JMG - until you said you were practicing the Dolmen Arch work!
Just listened to Fire in the White Stone with the proper attention. It's beautiful; that said, between my not-so-great familiarity with older English, poetic sensibility of a stone (if that's not a wholly unjustified insult to the noble race of stones), and having wrongly thought the short story would be within the digital album, I won't pretend to have understood all of it!