Date: 2025-01-06 11:05 pm (UTC)
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Ogham
Asking - "What does anonymous most need to understand about joining the AODA and/or the GCC?" (cut out the bit about the SOP)
Draw
Setting: Onn
Work: Mor
Outcome(s): Coll

Asking 2 - "What does anonymous most need to understand about using the LBRP as his/her banishing ritual?"
Draw
Setting: Onn
Work: Ailm
Outcome(s): Coll (Reversed)

My Take on It

Alrighty, to do this reading, I opened a sacred space, called upon the Wyrds (Norns) and concentrated on each of your questions while shuffling the Ogham Cards. For each question, I then drew three cards, using the spread "Setting (what's going on around you and in your life relevant to the question), Work (what to expect from actually doing the set of practices involved), and Outcome(s) (what is most likely to come about from picking this option)." I then said a prayer to the Gods who help me with divination, before looking at the cards. If I drew the card right side up, it is "upright," and if I drew it upside-down it is "reversed." For interpretation, I use my own intuition based on the Upright and Reversed meanings given by JMG in his Druidry Handbook.

Question 1 - "What does anonymous most need to understand about joining the AODA and/or the GCC?" (cut out the bit about the SOP)
For the first question, for "Setting" we have Onn, which means "Gorse," and stands for attraction, creative power, and passion. For "Work," we got Mor, which means "Sea" and stands for beginning, endings, and the changes that come from the deeper forces of the cosmos. For "Outcome," Coll, which means "Hazel" and stands for knowledge, creativity, and inspiration.

Putting these together, it seems clear that there's something in your context attractive and powerful about AODA and/or the GCC, but Onn also carries connotations of "opportunities with potential problems or challenges," so it's no surprise that it sound good, but you have your doubts. Mor for work is interesting, as it implies there might be something deeper at work here than just you and your preferences/strengths, but I read as generally favorable. Coll implies learning and skill, to the point of a new phase in life. So, all together, this sounds fairly promising.

Question 2 - "What does anonymous most need to understand about using the LBRP as his/her banishing ritual?"
Now, isn't that striking? Two of the same cards, in the same steads, but one reversed. I swear I shuffled thoroughly in between! At any rate, for thoroughness, for this second question, for "Setting" we have Onn, which means "Gorse," and stands for attraction, creative power, and passion. For "Work," Ailm, which means "Elm" and stands for vision, understanding, and eminence. For "Outcome," Coll (Reversed), which means "Hazel" and stands for knowledge, creativity, and inspiration.

For this question, it again seems like you see the appeal, but also the potential problems, with going this way (no surprise, I'm sure). Ailm for work is interesting, as I tend to associate this few with "seeing the forest, not only the trees" - in other words, this work would help in some ways to gain a wider or higher perspective - one thought that comes to mind is the great body of work available for GD-derived systems, arguably the most developed ceremonial magical system in Western traditions, if not the whole world. On the other hand, Coll (Reversed) speaks to creative blockages and falling back on the familiar, often out of a fear of the failure that might come from trying something new. This implies to me that while the LBRP would open up certain spiritual perspectives for a while, you'd end up missing out on some of the places spiritual work might take you.

Putting Them Together
The fact that these two came up so similar seems so striking that it has to be significant, especially with the directly opposed upright/reversed Coll for outcomes. To me, this looks pretty clearly like it's saying that despite your lack of feeling for the AODA/GCC related work, that might be the better path. Perhaps this is a case of needing to push through what's difficult. As I mentioned in one of my earlier replies, there are other SOP-based systems that might work out better for you than the AODO/GCC, so maybe that would be worth exploring more.

You'll have to settle all of this yourself, of course, and if other things point against something based on the SOP, then my reading might be off. It might also be that the key difference is in "joining an organization" versus "going your own way/rolling your own," in which case the specific ritual basis might have less bearing.

Please let me know if you have any follow up questions, and if you're willing, I'd very much appreciate hearing whether this struck a chord or felt off, and if so, in what ways.

Cheers,
Jeff
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