C5) I *have* thought she's more reasonable than Raven Kaldera - but ... faint praise even if true?
Quite.
Well, YES, but if you worship Loki, how's the Lokasenna not gonna be involved?
Yeah, I suppose that's somewhat begging the question to be like "wow, the fact that you worship Loki in exactly the way I'm uncomfortable with makes me uncomfortable about the idea of worshipping Loki."
Note also that Kaldera/Krasskova's ideas about deities in general *right now* don't involve a whole lot of concern for human consent about them:
"At the same time: where I work, what I do, where I live, whether or not I can have any particular partner, sometimes what I eat and drink and wear are all dictated to me. How much sleep I get, and what friends I may have are impacted by Odin’s ownership of me." - Galina Krasskova, http://kenazfilan.blogspot.com/2010/08/filan-and-krasskova-on-ordeals-and-god.html .
Ooooooh yeah, now that you link it, I think I read that piece a while back when someone else from the Ecosophia community linked it. It's weird, because I find what she's talking about *incredibly* creepy/gross (though not as gross as Kaldera's practices detailed here: https://archive.ph/TbVMW), but can't *really* fault her reasoning or feel justified in condemning folks for doing something in private by themselves or only with fully-consenting adults. So, I dunno how much is me being a prude (though it sounds like for Krasskova, it's not *exactly* sexual, at least not always), how much I ought to trust my instincts, or what.
(Can I say about someone *absurdly* more experienced than I: she's doing *Odin* worship quite wrongly?)
Well, folks on the Thorsson/Flowers "Odian" end of things, who seek to *emulate* Odin rather than to "worship" Him, would certainly say so. My own experience is consistent with the idea that He expects and demands respect, but also expects you to learn from His example.
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Quite.
Well, YES, but if you worship Loki, how's the Lokasenna not gonna be involved?
Yeah, I suppose that's somewhat begging the question to be like "wow, the fact that you worship Loki in exactly the way I'm uncomfortable with makes me uncomfortable about the idea of worshipping Loki."
Note also that Kaldera/Krasskova's ideas about deities in general *right now* don't involve a whole lot of concern for human consent about them:
"At the same time: where I work, what I do, where I live, whether or not I can have any particular partner, sometimes what I eat and drink and wear are all dictated to me. How much sleep I get, and what friends I may have are impacted by Odin’s ownership of me." - Galina Krasskova, http://kenazfilan.blogspot.com/2010/08/filan-and-krasskova-on-ordeals-and-god.html .
Ooooooh yeah, now that you link it, I think I read that piece a while back when someone else from the Ecosophia community linked it. It's weird, because I find what she's talking about *incredibly* creepy/gross (though not as gross as Kaldera's practices detailed here: https://archive.ph/TbVMW), but can't *really* fault her reasoning or feel justified in condemning folks for doing something in private by themselves or only with fully-consenting adults. So, I dunno how much is me being a prude (though it sounds like for Krasskova, it's not *exactly* sexual, at least not always), how much I ought to trust my instincts, or what.
(Can I say about someone *absurdly* more experienced than I: she's doing *Odin* worship quite wrongly?)
Well, folks on the Thorsson/Flowers "Odian" end of things, who seek to *emulate* Odin rather than to "worship" Him, would certainly say so. My own experience is consistent with the idea that He expects and demands respect, but also expects you to learn from His example.